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Hello everyone! Newbie members here and not quite yet Cairn owners :( , but hopefully that will change soon. :thumbsup: (Please, please, please) :D We (my fiance and I) have been in contact with a breeder in PA. We found the breeder on breeders.net. The breeders responded very quickly and provided (what seemed to be) very positive information about themselves and the kennel. There are 3 puppies available, one ready in March and the other two in early April. We are looking to possibly get one of the puppies in April. (Will post pictures below) We, being first time Cairn owners (and dog owners in general), would love to get any advice possible from all of you! We really have enjoyed browsing through the forums and getting hints and reading the cute stories and we hopefully will be able to post the same things soon enough!

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jlr79 CairnTalk Denizen

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Welcome!! This forum is great and I'm sure you will enjoy it!! It has provided so much helpful information to us. We have had our Cairn for 7 weeks and she is constantly keeping us entertained!!! They are the best breed ever!! The puppies in your post sure are cuties!! The hardest part will be the wait to bring one home!!

Jan

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Bekah CairnTalk Enthusiast

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Welcome aboard! I'm a first time dog owner who got roped in by a Cairn, too. They are great, fun dogs. Good luck getting your pup, the pics are great.

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toomanypaws CairnTalk Mentor

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Welcome to our forum. You have a tough decision picking one of those cuties. You'll find we all get excited over new puppies. Post a pic when you get your pup home.

<img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/maiwag/terriersiggy.jpg" border="0" class="linked-sig-image" />

Beth, mom to Ninja (5), Hannah (7), Abbey (7 1/2), Kiara (10)

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Hi and welcome!

I hate to be the nay-sayer here, but looking at your pictures that the breeder sent to you, and knowing that they are in PA, my initial impression is that this is an Amish puppymill. (The overalls on the man holding the pups were the red flag for me and it appears that they are in some sort of outside building such as the dogs are kept) I'm sure they were very nice people, but they still see their dogs as crops and are treated as such, and worse. Please check out this website about the PA puppymill industry.

http://www.prisonersofgreed.org/Pennsylvan...nnels-info.html

Be sure to ask a lot of questions. How old is the mother? How many litters has she had? (if it's the same as her age or more, you're not dealing with a responsible breeder.)

If you decide to find another breeder, there are other options and ways to find responsible breeders. Whatever you decide to do is up to you. I wish you all the best in your search for your little friend.

Thela

Check out Tucker, Scruffy and Chloe's dogster pages:

http://www.dogster.com/?82915

http://www.dogster.com/?85018

http://www.dogster.com/?327895

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deanerb15 New Neighbor

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Thanks for the warm welcome and all the great pics! This definitely seems like a fun group to share stories and pics with. We are heading to PA this weekend to spend a little time with the puppies and the kennel before we decide on which one we want. I know it's going to be hard to decide which one because they are both adorable! It's also going to be difficult because the kennel is located in Punxsutawney PA (happen to know where that is, Scully's mom?) and it's a 2 1/2 to 3 hour drive from where we live. So knowing we are making that drive without bringing a pup home this weekend will be tough, but I am sure the wait will be worth it! :P

Again, thanks for the warm welcome. We will definitely post more pics once we can get this little guy home! :D

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deanerb15 New Neighbor

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Wheezie (Thela), thanks so much for that info. That was definitely our initial feeling as well and part of the reason we are going to make the long drive to visit the kennel. We are first time dog owners, but we want to make the correct and responsible choice. From the get go, the breeder told me a few things that made me feel better about the kennel, but I would love all of your opinions. Here is a basic list of what we were told:

The breeder is with the dogs and puppies everyday

They also raise West Highland White Terriers and Cairn Terries.

They have been involved with breeding for about 5 years.

Their dogs are all housed in a kennel with indoor/outdoor runs.

The kennel is cleaned and sanitized on a daily basis.

All of the breeding dogs are on a de-worming and vaccination

schedule.

All of the dogs are socialized and very healthy.

They sell all of their puppies from our home and do not sell to stores.

All of the pups will have current shots and be de-wormed at least 4 times by the time they are ready to go home.

They are AKC registered

They will be vet checked before they leave.

The Mom and Dad are both there

We will receive the name and AKC registration for the mom, dad and both grandparents

These are just some of the little things we talked about with them. They also provided a contract that goes through what is the responsibilties for both parties for the life of the dog. They don't seem like they are in it for mass production. In fact, I asked about how long they have been breeding the Cairn and they said "only for the last year and a half." Not sure if that is good or bad! :) Please, any advice or opinions are a good thing.

Thanks again for the great advice! :thumbsup:

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Unfortunately, we did not make the trip today to see these pups. I am completely bummed :(, but we think it is the right choice. We stayed in contact with the breeder throughout the week and she seemed to be very helpful. When we then asked her some specifics about her breeding and the kennel, she got very defensive and said that we absolutely could not see the kennel or the mother. (but she said we could hold the puppies). Something in her tone did not sound right, so we regretfully passed on the visit. I really hope we are making the right decision, especially after hearing Triobo64's story. I guess it's better to feel comfortable with the breeder than not. So, we are back on the search to find a Cairn. After reading all your posts, we are having a hard time waiting. :confused:

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deanerb15, I live in Philadelphia. When we were looking for a Cairn every breeder that I found was in Lancaster, Co., known for the Amish puppymills. We finally found one above New Hope, PA, over the river in New Jersey.

I'm sorry that you got disappointed with the puppy - but I think you were right in going with your gut feeling about the person you were speaking with over the phone.

You'll find the right fit just for you!

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I'm sorry you had to pass on these puppies, but I too think you made the right decision. When she said that you couldn't see the kennel or the mother that would definately raise a red flag!! I know it's hard waiting, but I'm sure you will find a good breeder. They're out there!!! It won't be long until you have your precious puppy with you and then the fun will begin!!!!

Jan

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