Betsy Leiss Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 My girl is five months old now. The vet recommends spaying her now, the breeder says wait til after her first heat. What does this forum advise? Thanks for any help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradl Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 We used to spay early but have changed our thinking over the years and now prefer to wait until about 18-24 months for spay or neuter. You really *really* need to commit to being warden of your girl's chastity though. Nature is both powerful and sneaky. There are a number of good articles on the subject. Here's one: http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/health-risks-of-early-spay-neuter/ With virtually *everything* dog-related you will find opposite but strongly-held opinions on every issue (kibble vs raw, plastic crate vs wire, R+ vs mixed-mode training, etc.). For example with the early vs late spay there seem to be risks and benefits of both, the "best" path may be the one that best satisfies your risk/benefit comfort zone. Ours has shifted to "later" but I don't judge those who choose "earlier." 1 2 Quote CAIRNTALK: Questions? Need help? → Support Forum Please do not use PMs for tech support CRCTC: Columbia River Cairn Terrier Club | 2025 Calendar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanford Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Wow! Frankly, these look like horrible choices to me. The list of serious potential drawbacks to early neutering almost sounds like one of those ridiculous disclaimer parts of TV commercials for some OTC or prescription meds. I'm glad I don't need to make such a decision for my dog, but I would be very troubled if I did. Quote FEAR THE CAIRN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betsy Leiss Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 Thank you both very much. As bradl says, I've read conflicting information. My first Kerry was a social, non-aggressive puppy until I had her spayed prior to her first heat. It was like flipping a switch: she became fiercely aggressive. My second Kerry was spayed subsequent to her first litter. She was gentle and passive. Maybe it's a coincidence. But maybe not. They both died of toe cancer. I read an article by Stanley Coren a while back saying there's new evidence to recommend later spaying may be beneficial, but not enough clinical testing done on the subject to persuade most veterinarians. Thanks so much for your input. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Account Deleted Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) My breeder recommended between six months and year for my Otis . He's getting his stitches out tomorrow, I cannot wait 12 days is a long time, between the cone and and us not walking 2 miles a day thank goodness we can start our normal routine soon. As you all know without exercise this means a walk daily, they can be a little obnoxious? Otis was almost 7 months when he was neutered . Edited August 6, 2017 by Account Deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corn Niblet Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Rocky was neutered at 7 months. We were going to wait longer but he had started marking his territory in the house. He stopped this after neutering thank goodness. We did not want to take a chance on Gus doing the same so he was neutered at 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillscreek Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Angus was neutered at just over six months. Same with my previous dogs/bitches - of different breeds. No problems for any of them physical or mental. I didn't want to risk unwanted puppies entering the world. A dog can scent a bitch in heat up to two miles away. Amazing how they can find a way to get together. And amazing how sweet little darlings can change when hormones are raging. That said, every dog and every situation is different. Just go with your best feeling for you and your dog. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Account Deleted Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Otis had his stitches out on Monday . So far so good, the only marking he did was on the trees when we walked. I switched him to nexguard as he had a reaction to his 6 month collar, when they shaved him . I haven't noticed any difference yet and but it is early. We are back to a 2 mile walk a day, even though I have to get him out of bed to go! Once we are walking he's fine . But like you said it's up to the individual, and I'm glad I did it when I did because I never want to go through this again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betsy Leiss Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) Thanks to all! And I'm glad to hear Otis is doing better. Fortunately, I still have some time to consider. Your input helps. Edited August 14, 2017 by Betsy Leiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Account Deleted Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) It's been three weeks and I haven't noticed any change at all in him , every dog different and every owner is different that's what makes us unique . Edited August 14, 2017 by Account Deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toto-lee Cairn Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I am facing this dilemma now, myself. I think I see the value in neutering -- the Dog Trainer says two intact males cannot survive together, and advises Toto be neutered now, at 6 1/2 months. Prior to the trainer's recommendation, the vet said 7 months, which is just around the corner. I can see the argument each has made. My own personal preference might be to wait until after at least the one year mark, but I base that 'leaning' on growth patterns, and maturation of bones, possibly a reduction in prostate issues. With so much conflicting advice, medical input, how is one to know, exactly, what is best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog person Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Hope this helps: http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2018/11/new-report-on-complication-rates-for-neutering-surgery-in-dogs-and-cats/ And http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2013/04/benefits-and-risks-of-neutering-an-evidence-based-approach/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) Toto If you search this site [neutering] not to long ago this topic was discussed in length with varies options and opinions...all a personal decisions . Many different opinions in the veterinary circle. You just have to do what you feel comfortable with . I chose to keep Sam intact. Edited December 1, 2018 by Terrier lover 1 Quote Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened. - Anatole France Adventures with Sam &Rosie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toto-lee Cairn Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I read the other posts, and used the links to the articles. Thanks for sharing -- it all still makes me scratch my head. I will probably have to neuter my Toto, as the other male dog is not, and he's an 85-lb. Weimaraner. The Dog Trainer has me convinced the two will end up in a skirmish, but you know, Rupert will be 8 years old this month, and he has shown absolutely NO male tendencies. Toto, has already started trying to hump the other dog, and me, but I understand this is a 'dominance' thing more than sexual. I am just hesitant to have two UNneutered males in the house, together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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