tlwtheq Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hi Everyone, This is my fourth layoff since July 2010. I must have done something awful in another life, or maybe given the laws of probability, I'm the one who gets to be one of the worst case scenarios. I'm really freaked out. It took me 13 months to find this last job. Don't ever let anyone tell you that having a Computer Science degree from a revered Computer Science school makes your employment situation secure. Although, I suspect what I'm suffering from these last 4 layoffs is "being a woman over 50". We seem to be so easy to can. When Northrop Grumman laid me off in 2010, there were 5 of us (women over 50) let go. We were well represented in that group. At least we got Olie's surgery done and paid for before this happened. Gonna have to scrimp and pray again for a while. Thanks for "listening". Tara, Mom of Olie, Teddy and Sweet Pea 1 Quote Max and Nelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beccadiane374 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 So sorry you're going through this again! Quote Becky & Tanner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hugs, Tara. Just not fair. If you think your age is a factor, that is not legal. See a good employment attorney for advice. And don't sign anything in exchange for any kind of severance until you do. I wish for those employers a bad case of fleas. ..or maybe mange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlwtheq Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hugs, Tara. Just not fair. If you think your age is a factor, that is not legal. See a good employment attorney for advice. And don't sign anything in exchange for any kind of severance until you do. I wish for those employers a bad case of fleas. ..or maybe mange. Me too. The technology industry is too equipped legally for me to fight something like this. The person who made the decision makes up a lame excuse which is a blatant lie and all the rest of the management sticks with it out of fear. Quote Max and Nelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 So tough to deal with. I always feel that after a certain age women become invisible to the younger generation and unfortunately one gets treated that way. Hopefully you will find employment soon. Are there any universities close to you that you could put in a resume? Quote Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened. - Anatole France Adventures with Sam &Rosie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempsy's Mom Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Sorry Tara. What a struggle. Hang in there. Quote Elsie, Max, Meeko & Lori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillscreek Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 That's so tough. Very sorry. Sure is true the older you get the harder to find work both for men and women but more so for women. Hoping somthing will come your way soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuesday Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 This really sucks Tara, and i am very sorry this is happening - again! It's really not fair and I hate that you suspect it's the over 50 woman thing, because we all know if it looks like a duck, it's usually a duck. Makes me very angry. Hopefully this next go-around will be easier for you in terms of your search. I wish there was something I could do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Cairns Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Tara, having never faced a layoff or a question of "fairness" in a job situation I feel particularly unqualified to speak to the matter or what must be your tender sense of self worth and the fear that must come with unemployment in this most ragged of economies. What I can say from experience is that it really doesn't matter a whole heck of a lot "why" this happened as much as it it concerns how you feel about yourself and your abilities as a technician and a worker. If you know you are capable and experienced in your field of work then there is a job for you somewhere and you must and probably will find it. It isn't important what "they", you former employers, are but what you are. Take stock in yourself, be realistic, and simply push on. Even tho the old saw "everything happens for reason" is used and often used as a temporary balm to sooth the soul, take it to heart now. You aren't defeated, only set back a step or two. Your friends can only hold the hand and hope for the best and that's exactly what I will do. Get those resume's out, somebody somewhere is looking for your talent, go get 'em girl!!! Chuck 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hheldorfer Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 So sorry to hear this Tara. Prayers coming your way that you get a break soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arseovrteakettl Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Looks like you have a couple years to full retirement age. I retired a couple years ago a little early, and have been surprised that my Net income is about 2/3 rds what it was before I retired, even though my gross income is about 1/3 of what it was. It is amazing how much taxes and insurance knock down your income - it all adds up. You just need to make it a couple more years plus I think there is some jiggers pokers with birth dates, like you can qualify six months before your actual birthday. Might be worth going to the social security office and really nailing it down. Hope you have good luck in setting something up for yourself to tide you over the next couple years. 3 Quote Taffy, Reuben, Annie, Moondoggie, Lexie, Walter, Joey, Tonto, Earl, Beebo, Fuzz. And a whole bunch of cats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remltr Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 This has to be so tough to deal with. I hope things turn around for you quickly. Hang tough. Quote Sassy Jan 22, 2005 AM. CH. THARRBARR LITE MY FIRE ZOMERHOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanford Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Tara, I just want to add an "Amen" to Idaho's encouraging words and the moral support of the other folks here. We are all pulling for you. Having been in your situation, I know how hard it is to have courage and fortitude while there is a knot in your stomach from worry. Wish I could offer more... Quote FEAR THE CAIRN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkcrossley Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 i am so disgusted that this happened. lay-offs are so terribly stressful, and four since 2010 is enough to crush a lot of people. idaho is right, why is not important, what is important is going forward. please keep your eye on the good things and all the possibilities, and keep congratulating yourself on getting ollie help while the getting was good. you'll be rightside up again, history shows it. but we are all mindful of how hard this is. we really hate this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie&holly Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Oh Tara, so sorry to hear you have had this again. Hope something works out soon for you though. Quote www.cairnterriertalk.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradl Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I can only offer my sympathy and encouragement. Regrettably and to my continued frustration, I can't offer much in the way of an example. Thank god twenty-one years of Cairns has kept me stubborn, resilient, and of relentless good cheer. 4 Quote CAIRNTALK: Vote! | Questions? Need help? → Support Forum Please do not use PMs for tech supportCRCTC: Columbia River Cairn Terrier Club | 2023 Cairn Calendar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Account Deleted Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 So sorry to hear about your predicament, but I my husband and I understand very well. As a MCSE and Network security officer my husband's job was outsourced to another agency in another country. I hope all works out for you and send you good wishes! My experience is that Carin owners are as resilient as the canine children we love so much. Moogie sends you a big Carin hug and kiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tami Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 That does suck Tara. Good luck with the new job search. Hopefully it won't take too long. The last time my husband was laid off from his tech job it took a year to find the next thing. Too many of the positions are being outsourced overseas. But fingers crossed that you'll be able to find something great very soon. Quote Cheers, Tami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaMC Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I feel your pain Tara, I was laid off in 2010 shortly after we purchased a home, thinking that my job was pretty much secure but unfortunately, it wasn't. I was also laid off of the job I had before that, it's gives you such a terrible feeling of self-worth. I searched for a job for quite a while until I finally decided to go with a temp agency. I'm not sure if you've tried that of not but it did help me. They found me quite a few jobs. Not sure if you've tried this avenue but if you haven't, you might want to look in to it. It's a paycheck until you find something permanent. Sorry your going through this, I hope that it gets better for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieiras mom Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 So sorry you are \going through this troublesome time. Good Luck and know that the Cairns will help you. Keira and I are thinking about you and hoping for good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn in TN Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Tara, I am sorry you are dealing with this again. You are an overcomer and will find another job. Maybe you should think about starting your own business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm's Dad Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Hi. I'm catching up on posts and read this. So sorry. Agree with Lynn, maybe start your own consulting business. Better yet run for President. If you can handle Cairns you can handle anything including the world. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanford Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I searched for a job for quite a while until I finally decided to go with a temp agency. I'm not sure if you've tried that of not but it did help me. They found me quite a few jobs. Not sure if you've tried this avenue but if you haven't, you might want to look in to it. It's a paycheck until you find something permanent. Sorry your going through this, I hope that it gets better for you. Hi Tara, Hope you are bearing up... To that end, I'm seconding the post from LindaMC re Temp Agencies. I personally know several people who worked their way into permanent jobs through temping. Some years ago, I myself hired an assistant to be a full-time staffer after she came on board as a temp. Of course the labor market has changed since then so this is a roll of the dice, but worth a try. Workers are still needed in the labor/corporate market today. Sending you hopeful thoughts and good wishes! Quote FEAR THE CAIRN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlwtheq Posted August 6, 2015 Author Share Posted August 6, 2015 Temp is not a good fit for a 60 year old who is the sole family support. Our medical care needs are many. And I won't get any help from my other half in supplemental income or helping work out the details of how we can manage various options. He's free; I am not. Looking for a job every 6 months or less is not something my psyche can tolerate. But thanks for the suggestion. Quote Max and Nelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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