sanford Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I will be replacing my wall-to-wall carpeting and have tried to research new flooring, floor coverings that would be more practical for a dog. Beneath my carpeting is a solid wood floor that I can have scraped & sanded, which may turn out to be the most practical thing for me to do, but wood gets scratched & can also be slippery, absorb odors & get stained/discolored if the dog has an accident that isn't discovered in time. Everything I've looked at seems to have some drawbacks; stone tiles are durable & cleanable, but the grout can absorb odors and the tile can be too slippery. (Tile installation might also be too expensive for me!). I've read that Pergo/laminates can have the seams lift up if liquid/urine seeps into the seams. If I go with one of the above slippery surfaces, I'm open to using inexpensive throw rugs, that can be tossed out & replaced if necessary, but do rugs stay put or just slide around? I would really appreciate knowing what your experience has been and what recommendations you would offer. Thanks! FEAR THE CAIRN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Cairns Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 If it were me and I had hardwood floors under my carpet and they were in good condition, I would have them refinished. There are some superb varnishes available that will completely seal the wood from water and protect from scratching. With the availability of inexpensive and attractive area rugs, hard finished wood floors just make sense for pet owners--they are easier to keep clean in my opinion and generally look better than carpet over the long haul. We are going thru this debate right now--our carpets need replacing badly (not because of the dogs--the carpeting is just old) and I think I am going to go with engineered hard wood floors--much less expensive and easier installed than solid hardwood. We have a laminate floor in our kitchen and the clean up on that bit of flooring is much quicker than either the linoleum or the carpet in other areas of the home. Your initial investment to get the floors refinished might be higher than carpeting but in terms of durability and appearance--a good hardwood floor is superior--then there is the resale value of a home with hardwood floors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindasue Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 One word; hardwood! Our house has hardwood floors in all rooms but 2, and those rugs need replacing after training Pegi (she's now 1 year and has only had 2 accidents in 6 months). She doesn't scratch the floors at all. We do have a few rugs here and there. During her training I was much happier when the accident happened on the hardwood! In fact I took the runners out of the hallways (that was her favorite place to go) and never replaced them. Go with the wood! Linda & Pegi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjwarnold Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I'd love to have hardwood floors, but with rocks and stuff being easily tracked in our house (and not from dogs), I was afraid it would get very scratched. My sister has hardwood and has a Lab, and hasn't had any problems. We went with ceramic tile and I really like it. Yes, grout can get dirty but if you seal it and clean up after any accidents or spills, you won't have many problems. It is slippery, but the dogs learn when to put on the brakes and how far they'll slide if they're running. It's pretty entertaining watching them, actually! Jandy and my Cairns, Kirby & Phinney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hheldorfer Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Another vote for refinishing the hardwood. As Idaho Cairns said, the new finishes protect the floor from moisture. The last time I had my floors refinished was 15+ years ago and the finish still prevents any accidents from seeping through to the wood. I have two large area rugs in the living room where the dogs play, eat, etc.. Yes, there are scratches in the finish from doggie toenails but they're not all that noticeable and I'd rather live with scratches than without dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekey's Mom Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Another vote for hardwood! I pulled up some rugs when I moved into my house -- the floors weren't too bad, but tons of icky padding bits were stuck to them. I got someone from the Mr. Sandless franchise to come in to clean/polish all of the floors. Now that I have Zekey, I'm glad that I didn't refinish them-- his scratches just blend in with the old ones! And really, the only place he slides and digs in is at the top of the stairs -- he runs up and has to make a 180 degree turn onto the landing. You could always try your existing hardwood before making a decision to sand/replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodi0553 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 and yet another vote for refinished hardwoods, especially if they are old oak or another harder wood. I researched hardwoods recently and learned that older oak flooring is much harder than what you can buy now because they used to harvest older growth trees while modern oak floors are from younger softer trees. I refinished my circa 1955 oak floors and it was incredibly affordable and in 3 years they've barely shown a bit of wear. However, my mother put in new oak floors a year ago and they scratch much more easily. I went out and bought inexpensive area rugs and have found that they stay in place well with a cheap no-slip mat underneath. If you are considering new hardwoods, even if you ultimately buy from a big box store, go to a wood floor website or store and check out the different hardnesses. I recently bought "strand bamboo" for a refinishing project and it is ridiculously hard and durable and has a really unique look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Looks like you don't need another vote to convince you that hardwood is the way to go, but here's my 2 cents anyway! I have engineered hardwood in the downstairs of my house, and it's been much easier to clean than the carpets. I'm planning to replace the carpet upstairs with bamboo flooring. Haven't had any problems with scratches from Cairn nails. My friend's border collie has a phobia about slippery floors though (like Cesar & the Great Dane) and when my pal comes to visit she lays down a trail of towels for Doji to walk on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Ditto. I've had hardwood for a long time now and would definitly do again. We also have tile in the kitchen and bathrooms. I have not had a problem with them damaging the floors and we do have some area rugs so they have some place to get cozy on. My only problem is our senior dog Casey has a difficult time in the 'hardwood' staircase. She doesn't trust herself going downstairs any longer and even going upstairs she has slipped a few times, so we now carry her up and down. Not really sure if this problem is only because of the flooring or a combination of her vision and age too. Regardless, she gets spoiled and she's worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuesday Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Peanut Gallery speaking up for hardwoods. Had them for years with a lab who liked to play catch in the hallway and would skid out quite often - no problems. We currently have ceramic tile (with rugs/runners on them), and the boy does fine on them as long as he's not doing his crazyrunaroundthehouselikeamaddogchasemechaseme routine. When he's playing chase, he doesn't like the tile, so he's devised a plan to leap from rug to rug. Sometimes we outsmart him (not very often) and he tries to run on the tile and stays in one place. My only downfall to the tile is if it gets one drop of water on it, it's very slipperly for humans, and dangerous for those of use humans who are not very graceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar's mom Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I would say the hardwood floors also. I think your concern is that Sanford is getting up there in age and you don't want him to slip and fall from walking on hard woods. Have you thought about a boot shoe product so he can walk in the house? http://www.petboots.com/ Good luck in your decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScruffynMag Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 www.cairnterriertalk.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScruffynMag Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 ""I think your concern is that Sanford is getting up there in age and you don't want him to slip and fall from walking on hard woods."" Are you Sanford? I know I am!! I have carpets downstairs but I am looking for another alternative since getting Scruffy. www.cairnterriertalk.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cairnrescueleague Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 How about sheet vinyl? The less seams the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScruffynMag Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I am soooo sorry, I was thinking Oscar's Mum had done a typo error and meant to say Carrington could slip. I feel a complete idiot! I realise now that her concern was for Sanford although Carrington is an elderly pooch. www.cairnterriertalk.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hheldorfer Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Perhaps another alternative would be Astroturf . .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanford Posted September 8, 2010 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 I am soooo sorry, I was thinking Oscar's Mum had done a typo error and meant to say Carrington could slip. I feel a complete idiot! I realise now that her concern was for Sanford although Carrington is an elderly pooch. Hey...This is not a problem...I also sometimes confuse the names of the cairns with the names of the owners! Just to clarify: I am Sanford, (the one who types). Carrington is my cairn, (who doesn't type). Carrington can barely keep his legs under him on smooth floors, but he's able to have excellent footing on the carpeting so I'm keeping it for as long as he needs it. Due to his age and health issues he's thrown up & peed on the carpeting, despite my vigilance. (I clean up right away, but he's never scolded for this; the carpeting is old & I was planning to replace it under any circumstances). Based on the replies here, I'll start with investigating cost & practicality of refinishing the existing wood floor vs. installing an engineered wood floor. Good suggestions were: petboots.com. I'm considering these for when we visit family. The homes we go to all have newly installed wood & tile floors and they have finishes that are like glass!. Poor Carrington is totally immobilized until we put down towels, throw rugs, mats! (lol!). I also liked the practical suggestion for sheet vinyl, but so far I've not seen any styles that I like. Perhaps with a little digging I might find an appropriate color or pattern. Thanks for all the thoughtful replies. I needed to hear your expert opinions and I'm very reassured with your advice. P.S. I've been so focused on Carrington's needs that I hadn't considered the fact that I'm up there in age also. If I should slip on a stone or tile floor, I wouldn't bounce like I once did - I'd break! Despite his health issues, I hope that I'll be in half as good shape as Carrington is when I'm 16 years old in dog years! FEAR THE CAIRN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanford Posted September 8, 2010 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 Perhaps another alternative would be Astroturf . .. Or gravel! Or woodchips! FEAR THE CAIRN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zekey's Mom Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 suggestion for sheet vinyl, but so far I've not seen any styles that I like You might also consider peel 'n stick vinyl, that looks like wood planks -- you lay it just like you would a floor, staggering the lengths. There are inexpensive options at big box stores, and nicer options available on the web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar's mom Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I'm sorry Sanford. I didn't mean to say you were old. I thought Carrington's name was Sanford. Not to say this 37 yr old hasn't wiped out running from hardwood floors to stone floors, to quiet a barking dog while my little boy was sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanford Posted September 8, 2010 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 Hey, Oscars Mom, as far as the "age" thing is concerned, they don't call me "gramps" for nothing and I'm proud of that! Glad we could clear up any confusion. By the way, you've got the cutest avatar. Your cairn & your little boy look like perfect pals! Would enjoy hearing about their antics/adventures! FEAR THE CAIRN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekey's Mom Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Your cairn & your little boy look like perfect pals! I've always wondered about that avatar -- is the boy very small and Oscar especially big? He looks like quite a handful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtherapy60 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 suggestion for sheet vinyl, but so far I've not seen any styles that I like You might also consider peel 'n stick vinyl, that looks like wood planks -- you lay it just like you would a floor, staggering the lengths. There are inexpensive options at big box stores, and nicer options available on the web. We installed the peel n stick vinyl planks about 3 months ago in the livingroom and hallway and so far so good It has a woodgrain imprinted texture that helps it not be slippery but is easy to clean. It has been holding up great against Cairn playing, accidents, mud from outside etc. which were our main concerns when chosing flooring. Our original flooring was hardwood-pine and didn't do well with Cairns. Actually the plywood we put down over the pine was more expensive than the vinyl planks. Installing the planks took us about a day and a half. If you want the best seat in the house, move the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliemae Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 What perfect timing. My husband is taking out our old carpeting right now. It looked way too good for being so old and I needed it out. Brandy is 15 years old, and a male, and even though he has been housebroken most of his life, I do not trust him anymore and do not want to put in new carpeting as long as we have him. The hardwood floor is beautiful underneath and so with all of your advice, I am comfortable with leaving it hard floors for now. Of course, I am worried about his adjusting to it, but he does move slowly, has two beds in the living room and is used to the floors in the bedrooms. Will add a larger rug for now too. Thanks for all the timely advice. Loved reading the opinions. Eleanor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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